1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,440 I guess I should tell you a little bit about myself before I get into the experience that 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:07,640 I had. 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:13,080 I was born in Missouri and I was brought up as a service brat. 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,640 My father was a career man in the Air Force. 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:23,400 I went to school in Japan, Germany, France and Hawaii. 6 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:29,040 I jumped around quite a bit so I didn't get much of an education when I was young. 7 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,040 But I did finish it all later. 8 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:38,120 When I was 17 years old I went into the military service, United States Navy. 9 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:42,200 And my first new station was in Jacksonville, Florida. 10 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:47,720 And then from there I went over to the far west command and I helped serve out a flag 11 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:55,480 and fight for it in Vietnam even though I thought it was a immoral act of a war. 12 00:00:55,480 --> 00:01:01,600 Then coming out of the service I went back to Missouri and spent a couple of months there. 13 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:06,520 And I went home to Nebraska where my folks were. 14 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,560 And I wasn't making very much money being out of the service, you know, $2 an hour being 15 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,920 a clerk wasn't my bag really. 16 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:19,960 So I wanted newer fuels so I always wanted to be in law enforcement. 17 00:01:19,960 --> 00:01:26,920 So I talked to my father about going into law enforcement and he decided that the state 18 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,480 patrol in Nebraska would be a good idea. 19 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:33,600 So we filled out the forms and everything and I had to go to the Ash in Nebraska, to 20 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,680 the police department to get a police check. 21 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:40,440 So I walked in and five minutes later I was a policeman. 22 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:41,960 They hired me there. 23 00:01:41,960 --> 00:01:48,320 My life before this happened as a police officer the short time I was was a good one. 24 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:49,320 I enjoyed it. 25 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:55,000 I enjoyed working with the public and serving the community and serving the laws of the state. 26 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,000 Now I guess I'll get on with the story. 27 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:02,480 It was long, two thirty, actually I think was the time that this happened but around 28 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:07,040 two twenty I was just checking two gas stations. 29 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:11,720 I left the two gas stations, excuse me, I left the last gas station that I checked to 30 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:16,840 pull onto the highway and I was making radio contact with the Wahoo Sheriff's Office because 31 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:21,960 we didn't have radio communications available in the city at night time because we couldn't 32 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:22,960 afford it. 33 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,320 So I told them that everything was all secure. 34 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:29,160 I pulled onto the highway and put the mic down. 35 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,400 I seen some flashing lights in front of me. 36 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:38,400 First appeared to me to be a truck I thought as I got closer and put the high beams of 37 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,960 the lights in the tow car on this, this object started raising. 38 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:46,320 These lights started raising up in the air to about forty feet. 39 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:51,680 I think I was something like fifty yards from this. 40 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:55,040 These lights were flashing and as they got bigger as I got close to it. 41 00:02:55,040 --> 00:03:01,280 It seemed like they were red flashing lights coming out of a porthole which sort of circled 42 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:02,780 the craft. 43 00:03:02,780 --> 00:03:07,720 It had like a catwalk going around the center of it. 44 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:13,280 It was shaped like a football, very metallic, like a very shiny bumper if you polished a 45 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:14,280 bumper on a car. 46 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:20,720 It had sort of a reddish, orangey glow coming from beneath it. 47 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:27,840 And then there was this white flash that came on to me in the tow car. 48 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:32,120 It felt as if we were being pulled. 49 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:33,720 And then it was being pulled. 50 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:38,600 You know, we were being pulled up the side of this bank to the left of the road and up 51 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,200 toward this field, the car and I. 52 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,200 I felt nothing. 53 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:50,480 At first I felt kind of stunned and shocked and then I felt sort of tingly. 54 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:57,760 And as the car and I moved up the bank to the top of this field, this object landed 55 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,200 and some legs came out and it sat down. 56 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,240 I was just seeing it really motionless. 57 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:04,240 I couldn't move. 58 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:06,520 I may even have my mouth open. 59 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:11,240 I don't remember, you know, being probably scared. 60 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:19,200 This hatch came open and this light came out of the hatch and this form came down and looked 61 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,360 at the form of a human being. 62 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:27,840 And this form started walking toward the patrol car with an object in both its hands. 63 00:04:27,840 --> 00:04:28,840 Appeared to be hands. 64 00:04:28,840 --> 00:04:32,640 And he was walking straight toward the patrol car. 65 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,680 As he was doing this, another form came out and started walking toward the patrol car 66 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:37,680 also. 67 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:43,880 As this being walked up to the front of the patrol car with this object in his hand, which 68 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:49,160 looked sort of a squarish oval type, it looked like it had a lens in front of it. 69 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:55,080 And the only thing I could think was, oh my God, what's going to happen now? 70 00:04:55,080 --> 00:05:01,040 This green light came out all over the car and then it sort of went back in again. 71 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:07,640 And I felt a sensation and then I felt nothing like I was just there and that was it. 72 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,640 And this other being started walking up toward the car. 73 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,640 I was sitting straight, looking straight. 74 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,640 I couldn't even move my head. 75 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:19,120 And he walked up to the car and the window was about three quarters of the way rolled 76 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:26,120 down and he had an object in his hand, a silver object that looked like a big pencil with 77 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,160 a round ball on the end of it. 78 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:34,480 And he pressed this against the side of my neck, which I felt some pain from and said, 79 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:35,480 ouch. 80 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:41,200 Then he stepped back and I sort of sat there and he opened up the car door and just went 81 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,200 like this. 82 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:48,200 And I sort of raised it up out of the patrol car and I was looking at him and he was looking 83 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:53,680 at me and he said, are you the watchman of this town? 84 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,120 And my response was, yes, sir. 85 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,120 He said, come with me, watchman. 86 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:02,280 And we started moving toward the spacecraft. 87 00:06:02,280 --> 00:06:05,480 And it felt like I was walking on air. 88 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:09,760 We got up to the hatch to where you went inside of the spacecraft and we just sort of like 89 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,520 floated up into the first level. 90 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:18,040 And he says to me, watchman, come with me and we were in a circular room and there were 91 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:23,200 a lot of cylinders about four and a half feet high and about two feet wide that circled 92 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:24,200 the whole room. 93 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:29,440 And it had sort of like a cable running through it, two cables running through these. 94 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,360 They looked like tall batteries to me. 95 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:41,280 And then in the center of this room was a huge cocoon or, you know, like this shaped 96 00:06:41,280 --> 00:06:47,080 object was spinning and it was giving off colors like the rainbow and was about 20 feet 97 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:48,080 long. 98 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:54,960 And it seemed like these cables were coming up and connecting to these two block things 99 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:56,880 that came down on each end of it. 100 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:03,480 And we walked a complete circle in there and I said, what is this? 101 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,520 And he said, this is how our craft operates. 102 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:11,320 And he said it operates on electrical reversible magnetism. 103 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,960 And then I looked at him and he said, come with me, watchman. 104 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:21,920 And we walked back over to where I came up in with him and this glass sheet came down 105 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,760 and we stepped onto this, which I felt. 106 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:30,000 And we moved up into the second level of the craft. 107 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:34,760 And lo and behold, I've never seen anything like it before in my life with so many different 108 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,960 types of instruments, panels and computer type things that you just wouldn't believe 109 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:40,120 it. 110 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,200 This cone thing was right in the center of the floor. 111 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:48,600 You can see half of it from on top and half of it from the bottom, but it gave off a red 112 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:54,640 glow that sort of not flashed, but kind of died down and then came back up again. 113 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,000 And he says, watchman, come with me. 114 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:03,040 And we walked over to a screen that was up on the side, I say wall. 115 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:06,160 It was sort of like a TV screen. 116 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,840 And he pressed some buttons and I guess flipped some switches. 117 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,200 I wasn't paying too much attention to him. 118 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:16,760 I was looking at the screen and some stars in the sky appeared on there. 119 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:22,520 And he put his finger up like this and he said, this is where we're from, watchman. 120 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,760 And then he put his hand back down. 121 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,240 He didn't say where and he didn't say the name. 122 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:29,240 He just pointed. 123 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:33,520 The purpose that we're here is to get electricity. 124 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:40,000 And there was another being standing a little distance away and a man turned to him and 125 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:44,600 they both looked at each other and he started depressing buttons. 126 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,560 And he says, watch, watchman. 127 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:52,960 And there was this antenna on the outside of the spacecraft which angled toward a power 128 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,440 unit and this bolt went out. 129 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,280 A color I've never seen before in my life and I don't even think I could describe it, 130 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:05,120 went out and came back and this stayed like this for about three minutes and then it went 131 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:06,120 off. 132 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:11,960 And he turned and looked at me and I felt as I was getting a very, very, an awful lot 133 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:16,680 of role of input of words that I couldn't understand. 134 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:26,080 And he reached up and he touched me on the shoulder and he felt real when he touched me. 135 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:31,480 And I think at that time I did touch him and he felt real to me. 136 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,920 And he says, watchman, come with me. 137 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:39,240 We walked back over to the exit, I'll say, where we came up and the glass sheet came 138 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:45,400 down again and we went up into the third part of the craft which was the observation deck, 139 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,360 as he said. 140 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,000 As we stepped off, he said, watchman, come with me. 141 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,800 And we walked over and we were standing there looking out of a big plate glass window type 142 00:09:53,800 --> 00:10:00,320 thing and there was a control panel right in front of it and there were two chairs that 143 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:04,960 looked like dentist chairs, you know, a grid of the dentist chair but really a superstructure 144 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,960 chair, better than a dentist chair. 145 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:15,360 We looked out the window and I could see this one being walking back and forth by word 146 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,960 where my patrol car was. 147 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:19,960 And I think I said, wow. 148 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:27,680 And he put his, he didn't, no he didn't, he turned to me and he said something I don't 149 00:10:27,680 --> 00:10:34,040 understand and he said some more things that I didn't understand or couldn't make out and 150 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,040 I still don't. 151 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:43,080 And then he pointed his hand toward the plate glass window, as I say, referred to, to the 152 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:50,720 stars out there and he says to me, watchman, one day you yourself will see the universe 153 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:51,720 as I have. 154 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:56,920 And he reached up and he touched me on the shoulder like this, you know, like grabbing 155 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:03,760 you on the shoulder like a man does to steer you away and he says, come with me, watchman. 156 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:10,400 And then he stopped and he said, watchman, and I turned around like this to look at him 157 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:15,760 and it felt like I was getting more input of something that I couldn't understand. 158 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,760 Then he says, watchman, come with me. 159 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:23,080 We walked over and we went down all the way out of the craft. 160 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:28,480 As we got outside, this other being started walking back toward the spacecraft and boarded 161 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:35,960 it as we were walking toward my patrol car and we stopped right by the patrol car and 162 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:41,480 I turned to look at him and he was looking at me and then again it felt like I was receiving 163 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,800 input of words of some kind that I couldn't understand. 164 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:52,400 And he turned, no, he sort of lifted his hand and then he turned and walked back to the spacecraft, 165 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,400 floated up inside. 166 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,320 This catwalk thing started spinning. 167 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,080 The lights started flashing off and on. 168 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,320 This red orange glow came out from beneath it. 169 00:12:03,680 --> 00:12:07,840 It started lifting up in the air and I guess it got about 100 feet high and just shot straight 170 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:08,840 out of sight. 171 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:11,320 Let me tell you, I was scared. 172 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,320 I started feeling me again. 173 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:18,880 When I was aboard the spacecraft, I had hardly no feeling at all. 174 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:20,720 My body was tingling. 175 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:21,720 I was inspiring. 176 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:22,720 I was hot. 177 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:25,240 I felt nauseated. 178 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,360 I got back into the patrol car. 179 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:32,200 I turned it around and I headed back for the police station. 180 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:41,400 On the way to the police station at a high-radius speed, I tried to make communication with 181 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:46,080 Wahoo Sheriff's Office and it appeared the radio was dead. 182 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:47,240 I got to the station. 183 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:52,880 I jumped out of the car and a fast walk, walked into the police station and I noticed that 184 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:57,600 the wall clock in the police station said, one minute after 3 a.m. 185 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,040 Well, I went directly to the bathroom. 186 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:06,040 I had to go to the bathroom to drink water because I was hot. 187 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,680 I walked back into the main room of the police station. 188 00:13:08,680 --> 00:13:10,880 We had a real small police station. 189 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:15,160 It was about 20 by 20. 190 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:23,240 I sat there at the table and I lit a cigarette and I said, wow, what the hell happened? 191 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:24,640 Something happened to me. 192 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,200 Did I really see a flying saucer? 193 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,080 Did this really happen to me? 194 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:33,280 I looked at my report log and I remembered through all the training and everything I went 195 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:38,960 through that regardless of the nature or what it was, put it in your report book because 196 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,400 you just might need it. 197 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:47,040 So I looked at my report book and I got my pen out and I wrote at 2.30 a.m. December 198 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,600 3, 1967. 199 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:56,600 I saw a UFO at the junction 6 and 63, believe it or not. 200 00:13:56,600 --> 00:14:02,400 About 6.30 that morning, a fellow officer came in and I explained to him what happened 201 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:08,640 to me and the fellow officer says, I believe you heard. 202 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:13,720 One time I was on my way to Wahoo, Nebraska and I was driving down the road. 203 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:14,720 I looked over. 204 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:20,840 Lo and behold, there were two UFOs sitting in the field and these little green men were 205 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,880 out there walking around it waving at me. 206 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:25,960 I said, sure, Paul. 207 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,880 He says, I don't think you should tell anybody heard because I don't think anybody's going 208 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:30,880 to believe you. 209 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,400 Matter of fact, you're going to lose your job if you tell the people. 210 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,640 But I said, Paul, it's the truth. 211 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:39,320 He said, well, you know, he said a lot of people won't even accept the truth. 212 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:40,520 I said, well, I'll wait for the chief. 213 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:41,600 He says, no, I'll go on home. 214 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,360 So I went home and I was, you know, I really felt like everything was drained completely 215 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,200 out of my body and I lay down on the couch. 216 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:52,840 And as I lay there, I started getting a buzzing feeling in my head and it felt like I was 217 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,880 being head pressure on my body. 218 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,160 I couldn't move my arms. 219 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:59,360 I couldn't, you know how you try to open up your mouth and you can't say help. 220 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,680 I was trying to say help, you know. 221 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,680 And then I went off to sleep in the phone rang and it was a chief and the chief says, 222 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,880 get your butt down to the station right now. 223 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:09,880 What is this? 224 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:10,880 You mean you've seen a UFO? 225 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:11,880 I said, I don't feel good. 226 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,160 I'm sick and I'm not coming down to the police station. 227 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:15,760 He said, I'll be right over. 228 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:23,360 So the next thing, the TV came in, press came in, you know, newspapers, radio stations 229 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,480 and telephone calls started coming in. 230 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,320 Two days later, the ridicule started coming in. 231 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,680 Believe me. 232 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:37,080 And I had a man run three blocks huffing and puffing. 233 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:39,480 He owned the good year tire shop there in Ashland, Nebraska. 234 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:45,040 He let me, if you ever see another flying saucer and it lands, you tell him I want to 235 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:49,680 sell him a set of tires. 236 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:51,920 The phone rang, this is the planet Mars, you know. 237 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,320 I mean, really ridiculous stuff. 238 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:59,240 I think though being here in Florida, one of the neatest walkings I got was right out 239 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:00,880 here in the lobby. 240 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,200 The gentleman out there selling books. 241 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,320 And I walked up and he says, Herb Sherman. 242 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:06,760 I said, yes. 243 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:19,320 My name is So-and-So and I was taking aboard a police cruiser. 244 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,680 I thought that was neat. 245 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:28,080 The United States Air Force, conning committee, Blue Book Project or however you want to say 246 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:34,400 it, investigating team came down to Ashland, Nebraska to investigate me. 247 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:39,680 A gentleman by the name of John Ehrens, who is a friend of mine and a gentleman by the 248 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,080 name of Roy Craig, who was a physicist. 249 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:48,520 John Ehrens, he'd probably hit me, but he was a shrink, psychiatrist. 250 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:53,840 Him and I had long discussions and he told me to tell my story over and over and over 251 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,680 and over and I told it over and over and over and over. 252 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:01,560 And then they found a 25 minute time lapse in my log. 253 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:08,680 And John says, Herb, what happened to you between 2.30 a.m. December 3rd, 1967 and 3.00 254 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:12,160 a.m. or a little before 3.00 a.m.? 255 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,920 And I looked at him and I couldn't say anything because I didn't remember. 256 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,240 So he says, you got to come to Bowler. 257 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:19,880 That's okay. 258 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:24,040 So they took me up to Bowler and I met a UFO team there. 259 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:28,480 A lot of people who've done a lot of tests on me. 260 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:36,200 A hypnotist by the name of Dr. Leo Sprinkler administered time regression hypnosis on me, 261 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:41,200 which found out a small detail that I had been aboard the spacecraft and that I had 262 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,280 actually communicated with them. 263 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,680 They played the tape back to me and it shocked me. 264 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,040 I didn't know what to think. 265 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:50,960 I said, is that really my voice on that tape? 266 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,680 You bet it is, boy. 267 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,800 I said, my God, what do I do now? 268 00:17:55,800 --> 00:18:02,160 While I was up in Bowler, the city got real cute, you know, the city fathers and people 269 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:03,160 in the city. 270 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:09,200 The day I left, a matter of fact, the night I left, they went down to our beautiful cemetery 271 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:15,840 there in Ashton, Nebraska and took this dummy and hung it by the neck in a tree, put a big 272 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:21,720 star on it, shot a hose through it and paint the hose with red like blood and put herb 273 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,280 across the star with a cowboy head on it. 274 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:30,720 And they really may look big because they went down to the mortuary and they got the 275 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,720 amulets out of Code 3 Run, Sour Reigns, Red Lights, the whole works. 276 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:39,560 One over there and they very carefully took it down and put it on a stretcher and covered 277 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:43,200 it up and took it back to the morgue. 278 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:48,240 They thought they scared me, but they didn't, you see. 279 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:49,240 That's what they were trying to do. 280 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,800 They were trying to scare me, but they didn't scare me because I thought it was kind of 281 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,040 funny and I laughed about it when I read it in the paper and seen all the pictures and 282 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:56,040 everything. 283 00:18:56,040 --> 00:19:00,640 But while I was in Boulder, they blew my car up with dynamite and that really made me 284 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:01,640 mad. 285 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:05,880 I just got too pained for it and I was furious. 286 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:10,840 I could have done like George C. Scott did in that movie Rage. 287 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,320 That's how mad I was. 288 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:17,160 But through the whole crisis, I had one very good friend in Ashton, Nebraska. 289 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:21,040 His name is Leroy Demet, very close friend. 290 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,440 And he helped me a lot in Ashton. 291 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:27,200 He was one of our relief officers in the police department. 292 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:32,200 And I was really proud to have him as a friend is where he's stuck by. 293 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,960 My family, I really can't say. 294 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:41,160 I went to my father and I said, Dad, I said, I know you have 20-something years in the 295 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,760 Air Force, but I asked my father point blank. 296 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:48,160 I said, Dad, what do you think of UFOs? 297 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,440 My father never said no. 298 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,000 He never said yes. 299 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,720 He just said, son, if you tell him the truth, stick with it. 300 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:56,720 So I stuck with it. 301 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,000 All right, thank you very much.